Gus talks about the Defund the Police movement that's currently spreading nationwide and talks with listeners about how they feel about it. Gus hears from a few listeners who have either worked in law enforcement or have a loved one who has. Gus talks with two friends of the show who are former law enforcement officers in Deacon Harold Burke-Sivers and Jesse Romero and gets their perspective. We also hear from a police chaplain in the Archdiocese of Philadelphia, Fr. Steve Wetzel, who shares his experiences dealing with the humanity of law enforcement officers.